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		<title>How not to steal someone&#8217;s work</title>
		<link>http://www.howling-wulf.com/2010/04/how-not-to-steal-someones-work/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Howling Wulf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting ideas from websites is well and good, but if you&#8217;re unscrupulous enough to copy/paste web pages and try to pass it off as your own, at least be smart enough to change the adult affiliate codes. This poor bastard submitted one of my TGP galleries as his own, and I ended up getting the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/whipped-ass1.jpg"><img src="http://www.howling-wulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/whipped-ass1-282x300.jpg" alt="" title="whipped-ass" width="282" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-573" /></a> Getting ideas from websites is well and good, but if you&#8217;re unscrupulous enough to copy/paste web pages and try to pass it off as your own, at least be smart enough to change the adult affiliate codes. This poor bastard submitted one of my TGP galleries as his own, and I ended up getting the sales. That makes me feel a little better LOL.</p>
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		<title>Further explanation of TGP gallery statistics</title>
		<link>http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/07/further-explanation-of-tgp-gallery-statistics/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Howling Wulf</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[TGP Partner Account Reviews]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[On my TGP partner account reviews I use the &#8216;poor results formula&#8217; a lot, and when I think about it I wonder if people think &#8220;Why would I buy a pass that&#8217;s only expected to make me $40 after a month of submitting?&#8221;. It&#8217;s a good question, so I thought I&#8217;d explain. I use &#8216;poor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/category/tgp-partner-account-reviews/">TGP partner account reviews</a> I use the &#8216;poor results formula&#8217; a lot, and when I think about it I wonder if people think &#8220;Why would I buy a pass that&#8217;s only expected to make me $40 after a month of submitting?&#8221;. It&#8217;s a good question, so I thought I&#8217;d explain. I use &#8216;poor results&#8217; to determine a value to approximate terrible results due to a lack of design skills, sales text, the content, the economy, etc. Most of which you can overcome by building a better gallery. Here&#8217;s the full picture of what I&#8217;m seeing:</p>
<p><b>Example: Submit Pass &#8216;X&#8217; at $40/mo which gives 170k traffic per month to galleries</b></p>
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<td></td>
<td><b>CTR</b></td>
<td><b>Ratio</b></td>
<td><b>Expected Sales</b></td>
<td><b>Expected $</b></td>
<td><b>ROI</b></td>
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<td><b>Poor Results</b></td>
<td>2%</td>
<td>1:1500</td>
<td>2.27</td>
<td>$79.33</td>
<td>98%</td>
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<td><b>Avg Results</b></td>
<td>3%</td>
<td>1:1250</td>
<td>4.08</td>
<td>$142.80</td>
<td>257%</td>
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<td><b>Good Results</b></td>
<td>4%</td>
<td>1:1000</td>
<td>6.80</td>
<td>$238.00</td>
<td>495%</td>
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<p>So you can see the difference between the &#8216;poor results&#8217; (the minimum we should expect from submitting TGP galleries) and the &#8216;good results&#8217; (excellent designed galleries with good content and sales text leading to solid sponsor sites). Selling adult memberships is a very volatile business, so please understand these numbers are averaged out and can sway dramatically for each webmaster.</p>
<p>Periodically I check my TGP gallery CTRs, especially if I&#8217;m using a new template. For me personally so far my worst CTR on a TGP gallery I&#8217;ve checked was 1.13% and the best was 6.97%. You can safely assume I dropped the low CTR template in a hurry!</p>
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		<title>Submission stats for June 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/07/submission-stats-for-june-2009/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Howling Wulf</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Linklist Traffic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[TGP Traffic]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I like to spend my afternoons at the beach or playing my xBox, but with the recession affecting online porn sales I decided to go balls to the wall and submit 5 TGP galleries and 2 LL freesites every day and tally the results. I decided on 5 and 2 because I felt that was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to spend my afternoons at the beach or playing my xBox, but with the recession affecting online porn sales I decided to go balls to the wall and submit 5 <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/05/how-to-create-a-tgp-gallery/">TGP galleries</a> and 2 <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/06/how-to-create-a-freesite-for-adult-linklists/">LL freesites</a> every day and tally the results. I decided on 5 and 2 because I felt that was the limit of diminishing returns for me, and it takes me roughly the same time to build and submit 5 TGP galleries as it does to build and submit 2 LL freesites. This is roughly 4-5 hours total for both depending on how often I&#8217;m distracted and how many new templates I create.</p>
<p>Results for submitting 5 TGP galleries a day for 30 days of June across many niches:</p>
<p>Start date: 01/Jun/2009 at 04:03:19<br />
End date: 30/Jun/2009 at 04:02:19<br />
Pageviews: 6,159,233 (hits minus graphics)</p>
<p>Of my top 20 referrers, 11 are paid partner accounts, 4 scrape galleries from my paid partner accounts, and 4 are free partner accounts (though one free partner account covered 3 different TGP sites). The #1 referrer sent over 23 times the traffic the #20 referrer did. The 20th spot, The Hun, is free and does not require a partner account. I don&#8217;t think they list many of my galleries because I try to actually sell a site instead of loading the gallery with 30+ pics and/or 8+ long movies and little sales text. Slightly bitter, I know.</p>
<p>Stripping out the <a href="http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?t=53180">bogus google referrer from TgpX submissions</a> and sitewide searches, Google sent 6318 hits to my TGP galleries over the 30 days, of which 290 was from google image traffic. Yahoo sent 1559 hits. The newest contender, Bing,  sent 531 hits. Search engines accounted for just 0.14% of the total traffic to the TGP galleries.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that my likely largest source of traffic is not listed because it&#8217;s the only TGP site that whitepages TGP galleries. This is Pichunter and the other sites on the <a href="http://www.krawl.com/">Krawl network</a>. This basically means they have a local web page url on Pichunter that hotlinks the images and some sales text from my gallery to improve their search engine optimization. </p>
<p>The problem with TGP galleries is their lifespan is very short. Most of their traffic comes from being listed on the main TGP page, with most sites listing the previous 1-5 days of submissions. Being at the top of the category or archive pages does bring in some traffic, but as it gets pushed down it quickly becomes miniscule. Although submitting TGP galleries brings in a ton of traffic, the quality is low (about 1-5% CTR) and requires daily submissions to maintain a good income. It&#8217;s a grind, but luckily it doesn&#8217;t require much skill.</p>
<p>Results for submitting 2 LL freesites a day for 30 days of June across many niches:</p>
<p>Start date: 01/Jun/2009 at 04:03:31<br />
End date: 30/Jun/2009 at 04:02:13<br />
Pageviews: 430,468 (hits minus graphics)</p>
<p>Of my top 20 referrers, 1 is a paid partner account, 7 are trusted or partner accounts, and the rest are free for anyone to submit to. The #1 referrer sent almost 20 times the traffic the #20 referrer did.</p>
<p>Stripping out the bogus google referrer from TgpX submissions and sitewide searches, Google sent 5106 hits to my LL freesites over the 30 days, of which 9 was from google image traffic. Yahoo sent 346 hits. The newest contender, Bing, sent 47. Search engines accounted for just 1.28% of the total traffic to the freesites. I thought that would be higher.</p>
<p>The problem with LL freesites is their lifespan is also limited, but not nearly so much as TGP galleries. However a large portion of their traffic is from search engines so the quality is good (15-25% CTR). With few exceptions, they also hard link to freesites as opposed to using script links with skim like many TGP sites, keeping quality high. Daily submissions are required to maintain a fair income. It&#8217;s also a grind and more involved than building TGP galleries. However with few exceptions linklists don&#8217;t charge for partner accounts, unlike many TGP sites.</p>
<p>Comparison of TGP gallery traffic and LL freesite traffic:</p>
<p>It took me the same amount of time to build and submit 5 TGP galleries as it did to build and submit 2 LL freesites per day. This included basically all the sites I could find to submit to. Now that I have my stats, I&#8217;ll be removing the sites that aren&#8217;t worth manually submitting to (on a time vs traffic return basis) so my total submission time should decrease.</p>
<p>TGP gallery Pageviews: 6,159,233 x 3% avg CTR = roughly 184,776 hits to sponsors.<br />
LL freesite Pageviews: 430,468 x 20% avg CTR = roughly 86,094 hits to sponsors.</p>
<p>So submitting TGP galleries gives me about 14 times more traffic than submitting LL freesites and over twice the resulting sponsor hits, however I paid about $665 in TGP partner accounts for June ($450 worth keeping), as opposed to $8 for one paid LL partner account. These are just 2 of the many sources of traffic I have, but they account for about 75% of my total hits to sponsors.</p>
<p>What are your results?</p>
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		<title>Stats for a top listing at Pinkworld</title>
		<link>http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/06/stats-for-a-top-listing-at-pinkworld/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Howling Wulf</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[TGP Traffic]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Just yesterday I noticed I had the top spot at Pinkworld for one of my TGP galleries. I used 2 main links to the sponsor site and an exit link at the bottom to my related hub. For all you stats people here are the numbers over the first 24 hours. Unique visits: 41,244 Main [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pinkworld.com/"><img src="http://www.howling-wulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pinkworld-150x150.jpg" alt="pinkworld" title="pinkworld" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-462" /></a>Just yesterday I noticed I had the top spot at <a href="http://www.pinkworld.com/">Pinkworld</a> for one of my TGP galleries. I used 2 main links to the sponsor site and an exit link at the bottom to my related hub. For all you stats people here are the numbers over the first 24 hours.</p>
<p>Unique visits: 41,244<br />
Main sponsor clicks: 2088 (5.06% CTR)<br />
Bottom link clicks: 787 (1.91% CTR)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.submitpasses.com/passes.php?site=Pinkworld">Submitpasses</a> states &#8216;Pinkworld is currently receiving 404,866 unique visitors and 1,748,827 page views a day&#8217; but there&#8217;s no date for when that was written. If that is true for the day of this listing, that means about 1 in 10 visitors clicks the 1st gallery spot.</p>
<p>For extra info I just checked http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pinkworld.com and noticed it reports 48.5% of their traffic comes from India. What&#8217;s up with that?</p>
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		<title>Are TGP partner accounts worth the money?</title>
		<link>http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/05/are-tgp-partner-accounts-worth-the-money/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Howling Wulf</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[TGP Traffic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[click through ratios]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[sales ratios]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.howling-wulf.com/blog.php/?p=79</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[There are thousands of TGP sites to submit to for free, but some of the largest TGP sites charge for TGP gallery submissions through their TGP partner accounts (PAs), and most times there is no guarantee you&#8217;ll be listed. After realizing TGP traffic is a numbers game, we can now ask, are these TGP partner [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are thousands of <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/05/submitting-to-tgp-sites/">TGP sites to submit to for free</a>, but some of the largest TGP sites charge for <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/05/how-to-create-a-tgp-gallery/">TGP gallery</a> submissions through their TGP partner accounts (PAs), and most times there is no guarantee you&#8217;ll be listed. After realizing <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/2009/05/tgp-traffic-is-a-numbers-game/">TGP traffic is a numbers game</a>, we can now ask, are these TGP partner accounts worth the money?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-234 aligncenter" title="Pinkworld Submit Pass" src="http://www.howling-wulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pinkworld.jpg" alt="Pinkworld Submit Pass" width="473" height="264" /></p>
<p>Truthfully the only one that can make that call is you. Even though you can get an idea from other adult webmaster&#8217;s results (like me), your experience with the partner account will be different than mine. Your TGP gallery templates, content samples, sales text and time of submission will be different from mine. The reviewer may like your submissions better/worse than mine and list more/less of them. It can get really complicated, but you can still make an educated guess.</p>
<p>A good start is to read discussions about paid TGP partner accounts on any adult webmaster boards you can find, but what worked for them might not be the same for you. If you&#8217;re ready to submit your TGP galleries every day to max out the value of the partner account, it&#8217;s time to test it for yourself. I do not suggest this unless you are comfortable with your TGP galleries and have a good idea of your galleries&#8217; click through ratios (CTR) and sponsor ratios. It&#8217;s very important to know what you&#8217;re getting.</p>
<p>Paid partner accounts, also known as submit passes, are typically for a month at a time (30 days). After submitting your TGP galleries for those 30 days you can check your web statistics and see how many visitors came from that TGP site. Your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_hosting_service">web hosting service</a> should have web statistics software already running on your server for you.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-243" title="webalizer stats" src="http://www.howling-wulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/webstats.jpg" alt="web stats" width="558" height="145" /></a></p>
<p>Based on the amount of visitors sent, we can calculate the rough value of this partner account by determining how many of those surfers are expected to buy an adult membership. For instance, if you know your average TGP gallery CTR is 2% and your average adult sponsor ratio is 1:1200 and pays $35/sale, and this partner account sent you 100,000 visitors in 30 days, it&#8217;s monthly value would be (((100,000 x 2% CTR) / 1200 adult sponsor ratio) x $35 sale commission) which would be $58.33. If the partner account costs $25 a month then you can expect an average of over 100% profit each month. Why not get as many of these as you can? They add up quickly.</p>
<p>Alternatively, you can name each TGP gallery submitted through the partner account with the name of the TGP site, such as &#8216;pinkworld.htm&#8217;, then go through all your sponsors&#8217; stats for the previous 30 days and count how much money you made in sales off of urls with &#8216;pinkworld.htm&#8217;. Since sponsor sales are extremely volatile, and not all urls can be tracked correctly, I prefer to look at the traffic numbers directly.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t stop there. <a href="http://www.howling-wulf.com/how-to-sell-porn-online/">Selling porn online</a> is all about improving the conversions on your traffic sources. Experiment with other TGP gallery templates and see if you can get the CTR higher and/or the sponsor ratio lower to maximize your potential profits.</p>
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